I totally get that fights for stupid reasons between two good guys were the lifeblood of Marvel.  They helped emphasize the “shared” nature of their universe, and they were the realization of the “could Superman beat Batman” arguments that many of these Marvel writers had as kids, when the only thing to read was DC.  But there are limits.  This story starts off with Captain Mar-Vell needing Reed Richards’ science stuff to finally free Rick Jones from the Negative Zone forever, but instead of knocking on the door he thinks to himself that he “doesn’t have much time” and fights his way in.

The fight goes on for four pages.  (And it’s just against Human Torch, which in and of itself is as ridiculous has having Batman fight Superman.)

And how does it end?

With Human Torch telling him to talk it out.


Creators: Gerry Conway and Bill Mantlo (cowriters) and Al Milgrom

Grade: D

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